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| 03:34:40 | <piennu> | Some sort of Japanese website dedicated to "spoilers" (inappropriately detailed summaries??) has been declared illegal in a court case. https://www.google.com/search?q=ネタバレ+違法&tbm=nws https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/2202/03/news119.html https://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye4462510.html |
| 03:38:44 | <piennu> | not court case, but accusation |
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| 03:39:40 | <laudiacay> | hey, im claudia, a friend sent me here. i found your dead sites page i think it's awesome |
| 03:40:26 | <laudiacay> | i work on filecoin right now (please don't all rabidly attack me) |
| 03:40:59 | <laudiacay> | i think i have some ideas for how to possibly get money funneled into archiveteam stuff and also free storage on filecoin |
| 03:41:16 | <laudiacay> | but first i wanted to ask do yall know the archiveweb.page people |
| 03:42:23 | <laudiacay> | specifically anyway im leaving filecoin to build something on top of it (bridging it to Ethereum) and then i want to start figuring out how to funnel shittons of defi money into funding preserving and saving webpages |
| 03:44:09 | <@JAA> | piennu: If the automated translation of the first entry on https://manga-one.com/news is reasonably accurate, it seems the site was already shut down in May 2020. |
| 03:46:06 | <laudiacay> | anyway i want to be one of these: `People with Lots of Hosted Disk Space` |
| 03:46:10 | <laudiacay> | for the decentralized web |
| 03:46:19 | <laudiacay> | please let me know who i should speak with |
| 03:55:45 | <laudiacay> | ok i emailed jason@textfiles i'll leave my irc conn open for the rest of the night at least |
| 04:04:55 | <piennu> | JAA: indeed it does. It's in the news today though so similar websites are probably scrambling to shut down, if any. I'm not terribly familiar with it. |
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| 16:42:41 | <SketchTheCow> | Ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA |
| 16:42:55 | <SketchTheCow> | JAA: hi, pal |
| 16:43:36 | <SketchTheCow> | Just for the record going forward, don't send me anybody crypto/nft/decentralized, unless you are specifically looking to throw them into a dark lair |
| 16:43:44 | <SketchTheCow> | Which is a legit thing to do, just be aware of it |
| 16:44:24 | <SketchTheCow> | I've killed rsync on FOS, going to see what happened |
| 16:46:21 | <SketchTheCow> | Confimed that WATCHTOWER died for some reason or another. |
| 16:50:02 | <SketchTheCow> | Cleaning up, I'm sure I'll have rsync back up in a few |
| 17:03:44 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 17:08:13 | <@JAA> | Maybe we should create a wiki page on why we're not interested in crypto storage. |
| 17:08:41 | <@JAA> | It comes up fairly regularly. |
| 17:09:47 | <@rewby> | Sounds like a useful page |
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| 17:16:41 | <SketchTheCow> | I mean, my world is not your world. |
| 17:17:02 | <SketchTheCow> | By design, just because I hate crypto/nfts and everybody who lauds them doesn't mean AT doesn't have to take an engineer's look at this. |
| 17:17:29 | <SketchTheCow> | You'll fight me all the way down but maybe there's something someone has that turns out they were calling it crypto/nft just because they're people thinking that's what you do to get attention. |
| 17:19:07 | <SketchTheCow> | Maybe I'm just an old cog, burnt out, unable to accept our bright future, and need to be put on an ice floe and sent out under the stars |
| 17:22:36 | <@JAA> | My view is that all this distributed ledger stuff is pretty interesting, and maybe someday someone will actually build something useful with it. But for the time being, it's all evolving so quickly that it's not even remotely an option in my eyes for long-term storage. Who knows whether any of these things will still be around in even just a couple years? |
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| 17:29:16 | <britmob|m> | The only distributed file store I trust is bittorrent, of course. I do like where IPFS is going as a more dynamic version of bittorrent, but it’s not mature enough yet |
| 17:29:31 | <@rewby> | I agree with JAA's view here. Too much changes too quickly. The whole web3/crypto/blockchain sphere is way too unstable and I very much expect a .com bubble like event to occur there sometime soon. Which is likely going to have a bad effect on data longevity. |
| 17:38:40 | <SketchTheCow> | My attitude about Archive Team has always been that people trying to bring in money is a bad sign. |
| 17:39:06 | <SketchTheCow> | Even Laudiacay couldn't resist mentioning money being funneled in. |
| 17:39:35 | <hexa-> | money often creates a dependency, which is meh :) |
| 17:39:39 | <SketchTheCow> | I fundamentally realize Archiveteam is built off the backs of volunteers and ripped from the accessibility of otherwise-costly infrastructure. |
| 17:40:21 | <SketchTheCow> | But when someone proposes a moneymaking scheme, it makes me feel very much like it will be exploited. |
| 17:41:07 | <SketchTheCow> | Archive Team is already sitting on money: https://opencollective.com/archiveteam |
| 17:41:21 | <SketchTheCow> | Which ultimately, I'm fine with. I even got some of that money from someone at one point to handle hosting. |
| 17:42:23 | <SketchTheCow> | I assume most of it (after interest) will be used to buy a house in europe that all the archive team members retire to |
| 17:42:45 | <SketchTheCow> | Just a lot of screens and whirring machinery so we all think we're doing something but it's not connected to anything |
| 17:42:53 | <SketchTheCow> | And a nice orderly who compliements us on our upload stats |
| 17:43:27 | <SketchTheCow> | This plan is well thought out and I expect no debate |
| 17:47:06 | <spirit> | i can sponsor two loud teleprinter for the fireplace room |
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| 19:21:08 | <SketchTheCow> | Anyway, back to business. FOS now has 437gb back and I hope it'll be more by end of day and I'll turn RSYNC back on. |
| 19:46:53 | <SketchTheCow> | 1.2tb free now. Looking good. When it's up to 3tb free I'll turn the tap back on. |
| 20:26:39 | <@OrIdow6> | Sanqui: How'd the job for that stateofwar site go? |
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| 21:00:30 | <Sanqui> | OrIdow6: Looked like ArchiveBot handled it except for the title page, which is good enough for me (there was a lot of important downloads etc. which were grabbed). Sorry about bothering about it in the first place! |
| 21:00:50 | <Sanqui> | Thanks for following up though! I appreciate it a lot! |
| 21:16:38 | <@OrIdow6> | Np |
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| 22:48:55 | <KeyboardCombination> | Hello Archive Team, I was wondering if you guys have some videos from Google Video in a backup somewhere. They aren't present on archive.org despite the Archive Team website listing Google Video as completely saved I believe. I'm looking to archive some Roblox videos from it. Thanks! |
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| 22:50:04 | <Jake> | You are the second person to ask recently. I did a look into this a bit ago, and I don't think whatever Archive Team got was uploaded anywhere, I think, because Archive.org did their own crawl and got most of the data. Are you looking for something specific? |
| 22:50:43 | <Jake> | oh... and gone :( |
| 22:50:46 | <Barto> | lol |
| 22:51:18 | <Barto> | i gave him the wiki page though, i hope it's enough for him to get guided |
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| 23:35:32 | <TheTechRobo> | SketchTheCow: Out of curiosity, why don't you like decentralisation? I agree with crypto but I feel more comfortable being able to choose the instance of a service I'm on, no? Or were you only referring to decentralised _file stores_ ? Because that definitely is too unstable |