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02:52:18<@arkiver>quite some forums shutting down lately
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03:00:07<@JAA>Yeah
03:00:57<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+183, /* 2022 */ Add MapleTip forums): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48180&oldid=48173
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03:03:09<@JAA>I was going to throw qwarc at this, but it seems to be hosted on a potato, so probably not.
03:03:14<@JAA>Running through AB now though.
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04:21:01<britmob|m>Say I wanted to add a level of trust to a scrape of a site. What if I had a hacked up http client that could save SSL keys to verify that data was indeed served by a valid cert? Seems like an interesting way to do trustless scraping.
04:22:14<@JAA>Not possible. TLS is symmetric encryption, so you can't prove anything.
04:23:38<britmob|m>But the symmetric key is proven secure via the initial key exchange, isn’t it?
04:23:39<britmob|m>Ah shoot, never mind. I see what you mean.
04:24:24<britmob|m>Agh, there goes that idea. Thanks.
04:24:28<@JAA>Yep, you can prove that you were connected to the correct server at some point and that the key is correct. That's it.
04:25:22<britmob|m>Yep, sad. I had thought it would be a neat way to do something more secure.
04:26:44<@JAA>Yeah, it would be neat. Sadly, computer says no.
04:37:00<Jake>https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/11/signed-exchanges seem particularly cool for this, but I don't think they've been adopted by anyone yet.
04:42:17<Jake>Scratch that I guess, Cloudflare has a beta, but I doubt many sites have turned them on.
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04:59:25<@OrIdow6>Some discussion and links about why this is at https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/242482/why-does-https-not-support-non-repudiation
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05:44:29<mr_archive>Here is something interesting. I think this website uses seqential IDs for songs:
05:44:31<mr_archive>https://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/h3vxbri28h
05:44:37<mr_archive>Another example: http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/9yspvvos1g
05:45:22<mr_archive>It reminds me of what's going on with the URL shortener archive.
05:46:44<mr_archive>They may have multiple CDNs or something: http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/pu9vg6d4uc
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10:52:18<air>Edward Leung Tin-kei (梁天琦), a Hong Kong activist, will delete his social account today at 1600 UTC. (zh) https://www.facebook.com/leungtinkei/posts/1346908765721956 seealso: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Leung
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12:57:54<@arkiver>mr_archive: interesting
13:06:32<@arkiver>mr_archive: actually not sure if sequential
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