| 00:01:33 | <@OrIdow6> | DopefishJustin: With GameJolt, is this a change in policy etc. or just an increase in aggressiveness of enforcement or strictness? What is the outlook for the future in terms of timeline of removals etc.? |
| 00:02:21 | <@OrIdow6> | I.e., what stage is this process at? |
| 00:02:59 | <@OrIdow6> | And is there a good way to go about identifying objects slated for removal? |
| 00:05:13 | <@OrIdow6> | "New" submissions have IDs ca 678k |
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| 00:07:07 | <@OrIdow6> | No giant red flags for replay |
| 00:11:09 | <@OrIdow6> | bonga: Do you have any information on these Redfin removals? |
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| 00:40:51 | <lennier1> | There's really a bad history of indie game platforms going down or removing content with no warning. Possibly related to Gamejolt developing a mobile app? https://www.finsmes.com/2021/10/game-jolt-raises-2-6m-in-seed-funding.html |
| 00:49:13 | <lennier1> | It does look like a change in policy. Their current guidelines ban "Content that is pornographic, sexually explicit, or contains gore of an illicit or realistic nature." https://gamejolt.com/help/guidelines |
| 00:50:07 | <lennier1> | Compare to older guidelines which ban pornography but has much more nuance about exactly what adult content is allowed: https://web.archive.org/web/20210103031903/https://gamejolt.com/help/guidelines |
| 01:01:06 | <lennier1> | Seeing as they didn't think to actually announce it beyond a dismissive tweet, I really can't say to what extent it's in progress versus already complete. https://twitter.com/gamejolt/status/1478139980757172229 |
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| 02:11:17 | <lennier1> | The website/client is open source. Here's where they removed the adult tag, added a special adult locked status for people who purchased removed games, etc.: https://github.com/gamejolt/gamejolt/pull/893 |
| 02:15:31 | <lennier1> | Removed games are available for download for purchasers for another year. That does make me wonder if there would be a way around it for free games. Depends on whether they actually removed the data for free games and how they implement permissions, I suppose. |
| 02:18:55 | <lennier1> | Here's an example of a free game that got removed: https://web.archive.org/web/20211129041006/gamejolt.com/games/hotglue/409696 |
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| 03:36:07 | <@OrIdow6> | Do you know if everything formerly classified as "adult / porn games" has been removed? |
| 03:38:55 | <@OrIdow6> | Will try to do a survey/sample |
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| 03:56:51 | <lennier1> | I don't think anyone really knows. Seems like the only notification was an e-mail to the developers after they were removed. Wouldn't surprise me if they just wiped out everything under certain tags without actually checking the games. Developers are expected to contact them to get games reinstated if they were misclassified. |
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| 05:06:32 | <@OrIdow6> | arkiver: Proposed project as per above discussion: Gamejolt (gamejolt.com), specifically the subsection the interface calls the "store", video game publishing/hosting site. About 3 days ago it silently changed its policies to expand the definition of what is considered forbidden "adult content", and as such has been removing submissions over the last few days. Preliminary estimate of only the binary downloads is between 17 and 23 TiB, but I |
| 05:06:34 | <@OrIdow6> | don't know how the data I sampled represents paid games, games that require accounts, etc. (neither of which I propose getting). |
| 05:07:51 | <tbc1887> | I had a game on there I made yonks ago that was literally called weather simulator that was removed for adult content |
| 05:07:55 | <@OrIdow6> | "Only the binary downloads" as opposed to the game's profile, comments, user avatars, etc. |
| 05:08:30 | <@OrIdow6> | There are some heuristics that could maybe be used to try to determine what's "adult", but it's possible the site itself has already acted on these |
| 05:08:37 | <@OrIdow6> | -------------------------- |
| 05:09:05 | <@OrIdow6> | 2 closest WBM captures for the policy change: https://web.archive.org/web/20220102133529/https://gamejolt.com/help/guidelines https://web.archive.org/web/20220103212540/https://gamejolt.com/help/guidelines |
| 05:09:14 | <@OrIdow6> | tbc1887: How recently? |
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| 05:10:33 | <tbc1887> | Yesterday |
| 05:10:45 | <@OrIdow6> | How popular was it? |
| 05:11:07 | <tbc1887> | 268 views XD |
| 05:11:07 | <@OrIdow6> | Rather |
| 05:11:22 | <@OrIdow6> | Was it adult content? |
| 05:11:29 | <tbc1887> | It's nothing of value lost but still, not adult content |
| 05:11:32 | <@OrIdow6> | Hm |
| 05:11:48 | <@OrIdow6> | Suggests they're doing this automatically or else ineptly |
| 05:11:58 | <@OrIdow6> | Best case would have been manual removal of popular games |
| 05:13:26 | <tbc1887> | For context: https://i.imgur.com/iQqbWQM.png |
| 05:13:47 | <@OrIdow6> | Hu |
| 05:13:49 | <@OrIdow6> | Any idea why it was removed? |
| 05:14:03 | <tbc1887> | Nope, literally haven't touched my account in years |
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| 06:08:26 | <lennier1> | They added the ability to report games as explicit, so there may be more removals upcoming from that: https://github.com/gamejolt/gamejolt/pull/893/commits/cbfefa6d8f0ffd6e854a7a7c816553a2c2c1d4d1 |
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| 17:14:27 | <@arkiver> | OrIdow6: that may be good, yes |
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