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00:10:24<@OrIdow6>jodizzle: Because when we are concerned about "faking DNS", we are concerned about producing unrepresentative warcs, not because we have some religious objection to overriding DNS resolution in software
00:10:33<@OrIdow6>*it's because we
00:11:13<@OrIdow6>IDK: Try clearing your cookies, unlikely you've been "banned" that way, I think. Also #internetarchive
00:12:13<@OrIdow6>JAA: Do the server problems imply that there's no use setting up something else?
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00:42:04<jodizzle>OrIdow6: Maybe I don't understand. How would the resulting WARC be different with the Python trick in that SO post vs. changing /etc/hosts on the machine?
00:46:09<@OrIdow6>jodizzle: Because this is in the context of keeping it in a custom resource record type instead of regular request/response
00:48:43<@OrIdow6>So there is no need to worry about the accuracy of those
00:50:32<@OrIdow6>Since any reader would have to be consciously aware that they are not in the normal format, which would mean that even if someone did play them back "normally" they'd have to make an explicit decision to fake output at playback time
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01:00:08<jodizzle>Ah okay. Thanks.
01:00:57<jodizzle>In other news, it looks like my test scrape generated stuff for a while but seems to now be permabanned.
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01:03:44<jodizzle>Here's the result of searching for profile names with snscrape: https://transfer.archivete.am/U2PDp/twitter-curiouscat-search-profile-names.txt. snscrape crashed at one point (expected, it was a big search), so by no means comprehensive.
01:04:40<jodizzle>One thing I did to thin the search a bit was set a 'min_faves:1' condition.
01:10:37<@OrIdow6>Nice
01:24:14<@OrIdow6>I really would like comments on whether this is the best way to do this with WARC. The 1.1 spec gives the following examples for resource: "a file directly retrieved from a locally accessible repository or the result of a networked retrieval where the protocol information has been discarded", and this seems to fit, but I haven't really done that much with low-level warc besides reading them
01:27:00<@OrIdow6>Thinking of having the target-URIs be the URL of the retrieved, with DNS falsification, but with the scheme replaced with "curiouscat" - so e.g. "curiouscat://curiouscat.qa/abcd"; and of having the content be the whole protocol response, as would normally go in a response record
01:27:46<@OrIdow6>But even if this is technically correct I would like to know whether it is "kosher" or advisable
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02:53:38<@JAA>FWIW, I have previously produced WARCs with DNS overrides, and I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with that as long as it's very clearly documented in the WARC headers. Whether it can go into the WBM or not is a completely different matter, of course.
02:54:39<@JAA>A custom scheme seems terrible, and also IA ignores the scheme entirely when indexing WARCs.
02:56:05<@JAA>These *are* HTTP requests/responses against the server specified in WARC-Target-IP. While it's generally best to use the IP from the authoritative DNS server for the domain, that's simply not always possible, and we shouldn't outright rule it out but rather figure out how to deal with it responsibly.
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03:07:09<@JAA>OrIdow6: Not sure re ShoutEngine. It seems to hold up at 6 concurrency in AB now. Definitely not the most stable site, but whether it's us causing it I don't know.
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03:33:17<@OrIdow6>arkiver: Will DNS faking be acceptable if it doesn't go into the WBM?
03:33:40<@OrIdow6>Thank you JAA
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03:47:57<Ryz>Has there anyone working on getting LG stuff in relation to smartphone stuff? Any updates? https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_is_shutting_down_its_developer_website_last_chance_to_unlock_your_bootloader-news-52152.php
03:54:44<@JAA>Ryz: Why is this not on Deathwatch?
04:10:10<Ryz>I mentioned this in the middle of the final weeks of the semester
04:14:27<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Win-Raid Forum (+386, Add migration announcement): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48042&oldid=47894
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04:30:30<@JAA>Ryz: Ah right. Would you add it please?
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07:06:57<h2ibot>Ryz edited Deathwatch (+205, /* 2021 */ Add LG mobile developer website): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=48043&oldid=48020
07:07:03<Ryz>JAA ^
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13:24:19<@OrIdow6>AWS issues https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29648286
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14:00:47<Jon>does anyone know of a tool to manage periodically checking archive.org items you've uploaded / are otherwise interested in to make sure they're still there? when mine disappear it's normally chance that I notice. Would like to automate checking. ta!
14:01:17<Jon>I can throw something together but imagined someone had done this already
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14:19:36<@arkiver>OrIdow6: yeah i guess so
14:19:56<@arkiver>but it will be in mediatype data item, and not be in the wayback machine
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15:07:13<@OrIdow6>Ok
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23:36:48<endrift>So I'm planning to upload an archive of savegames to IA, but I'm really not sure how to categorize them, since they're not the games themselves and thus not software
23:36:56<endrift>I'm also not sure what tags I should give it
23:37:32<endrift>Can this all be changed later if necessary?
23:37:37<endrift>the metadata that is
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23:53:06<@JAA>endrift: All normal metadata fields except mediatype and collection can be edited later by the uploader, including subjects, which I guess is what you mean by 'tags'.
23:53:27<endrift>oh, yes, it calls it subject tags
23:53:30<endrift>in the uploader
23:53:33<endrift>I guess I cut off the wrong word
23:53:49<@JAA>Ah, never used that, CLI all the way. :-)
23:53:57<endrift>the uploader also seems to conflate mediatype and collection
23:54:00<endrift>maybe?
23:54:24<endrift>it just says "collection" but the options are "Community software", "Community audio", etc
23:55:45<@JAA>My 'can be edited' also refers to the CLI, by the way. I have no idea what the web interface lets you do, but I could easily imagine it's more restricted.
23:56:25<endrift>No idea what I should do for collection then since apparently that's immutable, and the options are...very select
23:57:22<endrift>I guess between "software" and "data" the mediatype might not matter too much
23:58:33<endrift>Maybe I'll just wait for Sanqui to wake up since I was talking about it with them last night already :P
23:59:25<@JAA>data sounds most appropriate to me, but I'm not an expert on this, and my own items' metadata sucks, so you probably shouldn't listen to me. :-)