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| 06:01:04 | <tech234a> | Super Mario 64 for web, doubt this will stay up long https://froggi.es/mario/ |
| 06:34:27 | <@OrIdow6> | tech234a: Looks like people have SPNd it, does it work for you like that? |
| 06:34:31 | <@OrIdow6> | Live version does not work for me |
| 06:35:15 | <@OrIdow6> | DW review: |
| 06:35:28 | <@OrIdow6> | FloydHub (still alive) - paid, not much to archive (IIRC) |
| 06:36:04 | <@OrIdow6> | mods.io - todo |
| 06:36:11 | <@OrIdow6> | i.e. not archived AFAICT |
| 06:36:23 | <@OrIdow6> | xtube - in progress |
| 06:37:07 | <@OrIdow6> | Google Drive - I have finally put some time aside and written a sort-of-working API client for it today, if all goes well should be on time |
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| 06:58:38 | <tech234a> | OrIdow6: live version works for me, SPN version does not |
| 06:58:48 | <tech234a> | iOS 14.7.1 Safari |
| 07:01:39 | <@OrIdow6> | tech234a: Trying on another browser, looks like Wombat isn't catching the wasm request |
| 07:02:54 | <@OrIdow6> | So it gets blocked |
| 07:03:24 | <@OrIdow6> | It's there, though |
| 07:03:27 | <@OrIdow6> | In the WBM |
| 07:04:05 | <@OrIdow6> | Isn't catching and consequently isn't rewriting, I should say |
| 07:05:18 | <@OrIdow6> | For those who don't know what this means, it's all in the Wayback Machine already, but at present it does not play back |
| 07:10:26 | <@OrIdow6> | Also: |
| 07:10:31 | <@OrIdow6> | e2bn - not responding for me |
| 07:10:44 | <@OrIdow6> | spectrum.chat - only getting frozen, not shut down |
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| 09:49:05 | <rewby> | OrIdow6, tech234a: I grabbed a copy of it using grab-site and when I play that back via pywb it works just fine. So looks like something about the WBM is funky if it has the files. |
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| 11:59:08 | <@JAA> | FloydHub has a lot to archive. Jake's size estimate was ~35 TB. |
| 11:59:45 | <@JAA> | Cf. in here on 2021-07-24. |
| 12:00:49 | <@HCross> | OrIdow6: thoughts on Google Drive playback in the WBM? |
| 12:01:04 | <@HCross> | will it just be a case of getting the data safe into the IA |
| 12:01:10 | <@HCross> | and then waiting for the WBM to support it? |
| 12:03:17 | <@JAA> | FloydHub data is still accessible it seems despite the precise deadline of 2021-08-20 17:00 PDT on https://www.floydhub.com/shutdown . |
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| 12:30:59 | <@OrIdow6> | HCross: Technically I haven't seen anything to exclude WBM playback, but it strikes me as unlikely |
| 12:31:20 | <@OrIdow6> | URLS look like this https://clients6.google.com/batch/drive/v2beta?$ct=multipart/mixed; boundary="=====yerrqj4as8f====="&key=AIzaSyC1qbk75NzWBvSaDh6KnsjjA9pIrP4lYIE |
| 12:32:33 | <@OrIdow6> | (https://clients6.google.com/batch/drive/v2beta?%24ct=multipart%2Fmixed%3B%20boundary%3D%22%3D%3D%3D%3D%3Dyerrqj4as8f%3D%3D%3D%3D%3D%22&key=AIzaSyC1qbk75NzWBvSaDh6KnsjjA9pIrP4lYIE) |
| 12:33:06 | <@OrIdow6> | And then those are multipart POST requests |
| 12:33:49 | <@OrIdow6> | I suspect that at least some of these parameters somewhere are generated randomly in JS |
| 12:35:30 | <@OrIdow6> | Namely the multipart boundry |
| 12:39:28 | <@OrIdow6> | And then of course the WBM doesn't care about the POST request body anyway, so the only way it would work with today's WBM would be if the boundries were all deterministic from the request for the first page, and didn't collide |
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| 12:40:51 | <@OrIdow6> | (It may or may not use real multipart, as usual I don't know enough about HTTP) |
| 12:41:55 | <@OrIdow6> | Anyhow, maybe that can be tested, but my plan was to skip the multipart and directly make the requests that it proxies |
| 12:42:38 | <@OrIdow6> | Since it should be easy to write a small tool to get them from the WBM in that case |
| 12:43:27 | <@OrIdow6> | And I do think that individual file downloads at or past the uc?export stage will work |
| 12:47:14 | <@OrIdow6> | Maybe |
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| 17:51:28 | <Ryz> | From #archivebot - in response of http://thetruthofgodsword.com/ content being relocated to https://www.sermonaudio.com/source_detail.asp?sourceid=hggueho - <@JAA> "Someone should archive SermonAudio someday, I guess." "Although that could be quite sizeable at 2 million recordings..." |
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| 19:36:52 | <@OrIdow6> | Has anyone done any substantial work on that video game thing? |
| 19:36:59 | <@OrIdow6> | mods.io |
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| 20:09:48 | <@OrIdow6> | Also, anyone know a statistically valid way to make estimates for Google Drive? Folders may include other folders and other files, but those subfolders and files might be sourced separately from the parent |
| 20:10:53 | <@OrIdow6> | That is, some links from the discovery phase, may be contained within other links |
| 20:11:30 | <@OrIdow6> | I am planning on doing deduplication (a folder queues items for each file in it, or similar), so I don't know how to do the estimate |
| 20:13:32 | <@OrIdow6> | Again, since otherwise someone will tell me the obvious: I know I can "randomly pick some and check their sizes"; I am looking for a way to get the overall size estimate, preferably with margin of error etc. |
| 20:13:50 | <@OrIdow6> | Don't want to think about this if someone already knows |
| 20:15:31 | <[42]> | i'm assuming you already consider querying the official drive api for that stuff? |
| 20:15:54 | <[42]> | i don't know about the volume for that and relevant rate limits though |
| 20:16:24 | <@OrIdow6> | I don't think the official drive API has a way to see the total size of everything stored in Google Drive? |
| 20:16:47 | <[42]> | not for everything but for individual items at least |
| 20:16:56 | <@OrIdow6> | I already have that capability |
| 20:19:54 | <[42]> | would it be that bad to query all of them? or at least a significant number? |
| 20:20:35 | <[42]> | looks like you could easily do just over 17m api calls per day per account |
| 20:21:19 | <@OrIdow6> | It is undesirable to have to do so |
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