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00:42:06<Earendil>https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/19/22632797/onlyfans-prohibit-sexually-explicit-content-porn-creators
00:42:32<Earendil>Potential onlyfans purge coming up
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01:39:14<heart>Is it even ethical to download/archive onlyfans content, though? It feels like piracy or stealing and would be straight up unfair to the girls who post content there to just straight up.....rip all there shit, y'know?
01:43:36<Myself>IMHO if you find yourself reading through the archive this year or next, then you should pay for what you're enjoying, but a century from now it's not piracy, it's history
01:50:43<lennier1>If you're talking about content someone put out for free, I don't think so. No different than lots of other stuff that's been archived. And I assume no one here is going to mass subscribe to every OnlyFans for the paid content.
01:52:51<lennier1>Obviously some individual paid stuff will get pirated. In general my personal ethics on that is it's OK if it's no longer commercially available (every ROM is still copyrighted, but I won't lose sleep over emulating something from 20 years ago, or even 1 year ago if it's delisted).
02:02:41<Frogging101>I honestly thought onlyfans *was* a porn site
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02:09:48<lennier1>It's bizarre. Like it's been branching out to softer content, but that's definitely its roots and still a huge part of it.
02:14:24<Frogging101>If I had to guess, I'd say it's yet another case of an otherwise pointless venture accidentally filling a niche in the porn market, which is an unintended state of affairs that they tolerate, uncomfortably, until the moneybags say "no"
02:15:39<heart>I heard from a dude I know who used to work with this kinda stuff that it's most likely because of problems with payment processors.
02:15:42<Frogging101>Which itself has always puzzled/amazed me. I have no idea why big money is so scared of the porn market. It's a massive fucking market (no pun intended), they'd make money hand over fist
02:16:01<heart>Basically, companies have a very specific amount of charge backs allowed per year (think like 3% or less). Sex work/camming/porn etc is notorious for having a VERY high charge back rate. It's so bad that a lot of payment processors don't even involve themselves with porn content (or gambling, or a bunch of other similar high chargeback rates). OF most likely got penalized every year for having a high charge
02:16:01<heart>back % and was most likely moving from one processor to another to another, probably trying to find microtransactions verifications/3D secure (to avoid chargebacks %) until they realized it was cheaper/better to just not involve porn content at all.
02:16:14<heart>Sorry for wall of text lol
02:16:17<Frogging101>hmm
02:16:19<Frogging101>interesting
02:16:50<Frogging101>chargebacks are the reason, huh
02:17:26<heart>Yeah, it's basically because of that. And money laundering too.
02:17:45<heart>Happens a lot in porn/camming kinda stuff.
02:18:43<heart>That's why a lot of cam sites take a high % of any cam girls/porns money. They NEED that to deal with the chargebacks that come from working in porn. It's either that, or get fucked and remove porn from their value props.
02:22:31<lennier1>Yeah, they use 3D Secure. They text a verification code for every purchase.
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21:02:41<nicolas17>ugh apple deleting old software :/
21:03:21nicolas17 looks at topic and thinks his apple ranting may better go in -ot
22:15:00<@OrIdow6>gazorpazorp: actually #afghansites
22:38:35<gazorpazorp>Thanks, OrIdow6!
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