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02:01:07<JackeithWelley>How does archiveing work for things that require login?
02:01:51<@JAA>Generally, we only archive things that are publicly accessible.
02:02:33<JackeithWelley>Ok.
02:02:51<@JAA>But for personal archives (or anything that doesn't go into the Wayback Machine etc.), cookies can be used in principle.
02:03:12<JackeithWelley>I was just thinking discord
02:03:15<@JAA>The number of projects where we used authentication cookies and it went into the WBM can be counted on one hand, I think.
02:04:07<JackeithWelley>How meany fingers do you have on that hand?
02:04:38<@JAA>There's #discard but I believe it's still WIP.
02:05:02<@JAA>And it's not WARCs etc.
02:05:13<@JAA>It's a normal hand, so six. :-)
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04:39:51<h2ibot>Tech234a edited YouTube (+353, /* Older unlisted videos (July 2021) */ Add…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47013&oldid=46980
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05:09:09<abcde>Hi all. Is there a way to backup this RTHK partial archive? https://app4.rthk.hk/special/rthkmemory/
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08:11:29<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Framasoft (+52, Updates): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47014&oldid=46930
08:14:30<h2ibot>OrIdow6 edited Deathwatch (+10, Move July 6 Framasoft to dead): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=47015&oldid=47012
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08:45:47<thuban>whoops, abcde is gone
08:49:41<thuban>well, anyway: pagination requires js; item pages have metadata and media urls but media won't play without js
08:52:19<thuban>i _think_ paging through content/all (by stroke) and collective memory/all upload (by date) should be sufficient to get all the content, though i'd appreciate it if someone chinese-literate could confirm
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08:56:25<thuban>(item ids seems to be sequential but item page urls include the category, so no trivial enumeration)
08:58:07<thuban>tentative plan: reverse-engineer the js, get a list of item pages, feed it to archivebot, extract audio/video urls from the results, feed back into ab?
09:04:14<thuban>hm, i tell a lie... pagination _looks_ like it doesn't work without js, but the content is actually all there, just hidden. only real issue would be with audio/video.
09:12:08<thuban>revised plan: feed site to archivebot, extract audio/video urls from the results, feed back into ab
09:12:50<thuban>(i'm not sure, but i _think_ that might be sufficient for working playback in the wbm)
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10:52:18<Ryz>So, IDK just found out that https://www.answers.com/ is currently in archival mode, and has found a statement on that happening back in 2018 May as per https://slate.com/technology/2018/05/answers-com-is-shutting-down-its-service-but-will-keep-its-archives-online.html -
10:53:16<Ryz>...What's confusing is that I found a question being https://www.answers.com/Q/The-underlined-portion-of-this-passage-is-an-example-of-which-literary-termpersonificationmetaphorsimileallusion that was made '3d ago' - and their best answer being '22h ago'
10:54:07<Ryz>And that on the main page, there's no explicit mention of the website being in archival state, and that the website is trend-oriented or current news oriented with the Tokyo 2020 Olympics being a thing with text and graphics kinda associated to it
10:55:06<Ryz>IDK can't make new questions with their account but can still make comments (comments = answers?)
10:55:52<Ryz>I would like this to be investigated mainly so that we can determine on archiving this before it disappears similar to Yahoo Answers
10:56:06<IDK>Its kinda confusing
10:57:17<IDK>Ryz: https://web.archive.org/web/20210401022653/https://www.answers.com/
10:57:25<IDK>There is still a main page with new answers
10:58:07<IDK>https://web.archive.org/web/20210501005113/https://www.answers.com/
10:58:10<IDK>May 1st
10:58:17<Ryz>Their social media like https://twitter.com/joinanswers is still active, and there's even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kqx_avAjSo from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWxZhEfntoMuytDL4SaQr3g/videos that was posted on 2020 December, about 1.5 years after their archival statement on the source
10:58:22<IDK>All is left is a search bar
10:58:35<IDK>False report?
10:59:09<Ryz>It's possible they just changed their minds or something happened behind the scenes that they felt it's worth continuing
10:59:30<IDK>Seems stable at least
11:00:18<Ryz>Furthermore, if the website is in it's archival state, there wouldn't be the ability to create a new account on their website oo;
11:00:41<IDK>Should be fine
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17:24:26<duce1337>can someone run archivebot on https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.online
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17:26:47<Ryz>Hello duce1337, what's your reason for wanting ArchiveBot to archive https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.online/ ?
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18:47:50<duce1337>Ryz: just to archive, because wikiteam archives a wiki when ever someone requests
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18:50:42<Ryz>Well, you're seeing mainly me requesting archives, but that's mainly because whether there's low activity in the wiki, which I also run it in ArchiveBot incase there's export problems~
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18:53:55<thuban>i don't know anything about this particular incarnation, but encyclopedia dramatica is both culturally significant (to the internet) and historically extremely unstable
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19:30:37<Ryz>Considering what's going on as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision_Blizzard#Workplace_conduct_lawsuit - time for even more archiving of Activision Blizzard accounts, if I can find any more
19:30:43<Ryz>Or rearchiving too
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