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| 00:49:05 | <purplebot> | The WARC Ecosystem edited by Hook54321 (-19) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46405&oldid=44292 |
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| 01:46:56 | <atphoenix> | from AB channel. Maybe blogspot should be a project. |
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| 02:21:50 | <@arkiver> | atphoenix: what from AB channel? |
| 02:21:54 | <@arkiver> | why |
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| 03:08:41 | <atphoenix> | that was prompted because Ryz found an old blog page https://1post1der.blogspot.com/ that links to quite a few other old no longer updated blog pages, and Ryz noticed that a lot are not in WBM at all. So it's a recognition that there are a lot of aging/abandoned blogs there, sitting on a Google platform. An age-based scope limit of say 'not updated in past 5 years' would cover the stuff that was found. |
| 03:12:49 | <Ryz> | It is really curious to see there we no links to those respective blogs, you have to manually copy and paste or type out those URLs to make it work |
| 03:13:31 | <@JAA> | There's been discussion on this in #archivebot before. The big problem is that we haven't found any way to discover Blogger blogs. |
| 03:14:23 | <Ryz> | Uhh, what about going through Blogger profiles? It's numerical? Although it'll give 429s if they're accessed too many times~ |
| 03:14:56 | <Ryz> | Also, there can be secret blogs made by a user but not listed in 'My blogs' at all from that one instance I stumbled across |
| 03:15:14 | <@JAA> | Profile IDs are too long to bruteforce. |
| 03:17:27 | <@JAA> | Same goes for blog IDs in the RSS feeds for example. Old blogs were sequential, but newer ones aren't. |
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| 03:54:49 | <atphoenix> | The sequentialness for the old blogs is still useful. The oldest blogs may be the most valuable ones, from the perspective that they have mid-2000s content, and if they are still active then they have some of the longest continuous records still online, and if they're not active then they're the type of content we target with AB anyhow. |
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| 04:42:07 | <tech234a> | Blogger used to have a “next blog” button on some sites but I think it has since been removed |
| 04:43:18 | <Ryz> | Yeah, I missed that one a lot... :c |
| 04:47:54 | <tech234a> | APIs: https://developers.google.com/blogger/docs/3.0/using https://developers.google.com/blogger/docs/2.0/developers_guide_protocol |
| 04:50:19 | <tech234a> | I helped run a Google+ Comments on Blogspot project 2 years ago, there may also be some blogs there |
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| 04:53:07 | <tech234a> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Google_Plus_Comments_on_Blogspot |
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| 06:03:09 | <tech234a> | This looks possibly promising for finding user profiles https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.blogger.com/profile-find.g* |
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| 07:06:39 | <mirsal> | hey there, it might be a good idea to archive https://git.rip before it's too late |
| 07:07:10 | <mirsal> | oof, looks like it is actually too late :/ |
| 07:20:02 | <flashfire42> | wtf happened to it that it got siezed? |
| 07:21:57 | <Jake> | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-12/swiss-police-raid-apartment-of-verkada-hacker-seize-devices |
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| 14:14:27 | <OrIdow6> | There is nothing wrong with archving Blogspot, but projects, proactive or not, create work, need to manage resources, etc. |
| 14:14:47 | <OrIdow6> | I don't think it's the sort of thing that would go down without warning |
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| 15:39:39 | <hj> | hi. not sure how this works. Can people see this comment? |
| 15:40:12 | <thuban> | hj: yes; what are you looking for? |
| 15:40:57 | <hj> | thanks. i am trying to get the messages from an old yahoo group. i believe it was one you archived, but i don't yet see it on archive.org |
| 15:41:22 | <thuban> | we're still processing that data. what was the name of the group? |
| 15:41:27 | <hj> | JAG_treasure_seekers |
| 15:41:46 | <hj> | if I can donate to your work or something to help, i am happy to |
| 15:44:20 | <thuban> | yes, we definitely have that group |
| 15:44:52 | <thuban> | why don't you come to the #yahoosucks channel and we'll dig up a copy? |
| 15:45:14 | <hj> | ok. thanks. should i just message when i get there? |
| 15:45:22 | <thuban> | sure |
| 15:45:28 | <hj> | thanks! |
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| 17:49:28 | <spirit> | hj: you can donate to https://archive.org/donate/ :) |
| 17:49:43 | <spirit> | that's not "us" but they deserve it |
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| 20:08:09 | <tech234a> | No default project is set |
| 20:31:39 | <@EggplantN> | tech234a niconico is set |
| 20:31:49 | <@EggplantN> | there is 90k items left |
| 20:32:14 | <tech234a> | Ah it’s not on the home page |
| 20:33:33 | <SCSi> | yeah the warrior (at least the docker version) doesnt have niconico on the page |
| 20:33:37 | <SCSi> | nor a default project |
| 20:33:48 | <@EggplantN> | hrm so it requires it on the front page to work? |
| 20:33:51 | <@EggplantN> | huh didnt know that |
| 20:34:00 | <@JAA> | It should be there regardless. :-P |
| 20:34:07 | <SCSi> | image: atdr.meo.ws/archiveteam/warrior-dockerfile |
| 20:34:18 | <SCSi> | that dockerfile is what im using, i just pulled it this morning |
| 20:34:55 | <@JAA> | And yeah, http://warriorhq.archiveteam.org/projects.json has niconico as the default project, but no such project is defined. |
| 20:35:10 | <@EggplantN> | I removed it as it "was" done |
| 20:35:13 | <@EggplantN> | then more items appeared |
| 20:35:23 | <@JAA> | Just leave finished projects in for a bit. :-) |
| 20:35:52 | <@EggplantN> | ok fixed |
| 20:36:01 | <@EggplantN> | It was fully done JAA then someone discovered more :P |
| 20:36:16 | <@JAA> | Yeah, my point is that it should stay there even after completion for a bit. |
| 20:36:50 | <@EggplantN> | fair point |
| 20:36:54 | <@JAA> | So people who go looking there can see that it's finished, find the size, etc. |
| 20:37:00 | <SCSi> | there we go |
| 20:37:08 | <@JAA> | Without having to dig through the wiki, if someone even created a wiki page etc. |
| 20:38:55 | <@EggplantN> | I wish we had them seperated for that reason JAA |
| 20:39:01 | <@EggplantN> | have "One off projects" |
| 20:39:04 | <@EggplantN> | "On going projects" |
| 20:39:10 | <@EggplantN> | "recently finished projects" |
| 20:39:27 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that'd be nice. |
| 20:41:21 | <SCSi> | be nice if we had on finished projects in the warrior we had the total $items and total $size |
| 20:41:44 | <SCSi> | yanno, just so when people look they go 'oh wow, thats a lot of archiving' |
| 20:41:54 | <SCSi> | just a thought |
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| 21:43:00 | <@Kaz> | oh oops |
| 21:43:10 | <@Kaz> | didn't see this conversation, cheers for fixing (whoever did that) |
| 21:43:21 | <@Kaz> | i changed the default earlier, so I'll take the stick for that |
| 21:43:55 | <@Kaz> | oh and wow, it literally just finished |
| 21:44:39 | <@EggplantN> | me |
| 21:44:43 | <@EggplantN> | oh it has |
| 21:44:46 | <@EggplantN> | is it empty empty |
| 21:44:56 | <@EggplantN> | ah just reclaim left |
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| 23:07:31 | <tech234a> | It would also be nice if the tracker showed the IRC channel, wiki link as well as the closing date for each project. |
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