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| 00:02:22 | <Ryz> | So... maybe a project on archiving Google Play app pages, particularly reviews? https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1354909724869853188 |
| 00:02:36 | <@EggplantN> | woah |
| 00:02:37 | <@EggplantN> | ok |
| 00:02:40 | <@EggplantN> | this shits getting wild |
| 00:03:24 | <@EggplantN> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kvg2i8On/image.png |
| 00:03:35 | <@EggplantN> | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6hmmyTbg/image.png |
| 00:03:49 | <@EggplantN> | Unsure if its >100k but its enough to swing its rating |
| 00:04:07 | <Ryz> | Help with archiving those pages like that and in general? s: |
| 00:04:34 | <daalekz> | can't you get taken off the store if you get review bombed hard enough |
| 00:06:01 | <Ryz> | Well, there's this Google cached thing that we'll at least save: https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1354909724869853188 |
| 00:06:08 | <Ryz> | Not that one, this one: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PMQUE_NvgEwJ:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details%3Fid%3Dcom.robinhood.android%26hl%3Den_US%26gl%3DUS+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us |
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| 00:11:59 | <@JAA> | Looks like reviews are loaded through disgusting POST requests. |
| 00:12:27 | <@JAA> | Seems even worse than the YouTube APIs. |
| 00:12:33 | <@JAA> | Well, 'APIs'. |
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| 01:11:32 | <josephwdye> | Hello :D |
| 01:11:38 | <@kiska> | Henlo! |
| 01:11:54 | <@JAA> | ohai |
| 01:12:07 | <@kiska> | We have services |
| 01:12:10 | <josephwdye> | How is it going beautiful people? |
| 01:12:43 | <@kiska> | How goes this fine day. Its wonderfully cool in Sydney |
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| 01:14:38 | <josephwdye> | My friend is showing of their new 3d printer and i'm soooo jelly. |
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| 01:18:30 | <@JAA> | Aye, pretty well. Royal entertainment is being provided by Reddit. :-) |
| 01:18:54 | <@JAA> | We have another channel for off-topic chat, by the way: #archiveteam-ot |
| 01:18:55 | <josephwdye> | Shit is pretty good right now. |
| 01:19:19 | <@EggplantN> | Heyo. |
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| 01:26:01 | <OrIdow6> | So my thing to explore the Storyfire follower/followee graph finished |
| 01:29:05 | <OrIdow6> | Here is the data - https://transfer.notkiska.pw/rJQ6p/storyfire_follows.py.zst - there may be duplicates due to an oversight involving threading |
| 01:29:34 | <@JAA> | arkiver: ^ |
| 01:29:38 | <OrIdow6> | Next step is to order by # followers and produce a size estimate |
| 01:30:20 | <OrIdow6> | About half a million users, by the way |
| 01:30:36 | <@JAA> | Nice |
| 01:31:18 | <OrIdow6> | Again, this file doesn't contain video lists, or even user human-readable names, just info on who follows whom |
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| 01:52:51 | <@arkiver> | OrIdow6: sounds good! |
| 01:53:18 | <@arkiver> | i just created a storyfire-grab repo on github, code will be there some time tomorrow |
| 01:55:15 | <@arkiver> | https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/storyfire-grab |
| 01:55:22 | <OrIdow6> | Ok |
| 01:55:45 | <OrIdow6> | I think I hears somewhere that they had to approve people to upload - suggests that the video will be small enough to get all of it |
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| 01:56:03 | <OrIdow6> | As that would prevent the usual long tail of videos with 1-5 views, etc. |
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| 01:56:10 | <OrIdow6> | *heard |
| 01:56:36 | <@arkiver> | would be good |
| 01:58:02 | <OrIdow6> | Yeah |
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| 09:41:27 | <@Fusl> | EggplantN: there were around 300k ratings when i checked |
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| 18:04:24 | <avoozl> | JAA, Sanqui: got a temporary test up and running, which will go down in a bit, but it looks like we're getting sensible results from the indexer: http://hosted.viszie.com:9090/ |
| 18:05:32 | <Sanqui> | that is hella cool! |
| 18:06:09 | <avoozl> | thanks... still tons of items in my todo list :P |
| 18:06:47 | <Sanqui> | there's a lot of german, which I didn't expect haha |
| 18:07:18 | <avoozl> | Oh I picked euh.. forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com-0000?.warc.gz |
| 18:07:23 | <avoozl> | so the EUW there may be a territory |
| 18:07:36 | <@JAA> | euw = EU West IIRC, so makes sense. |
| 18:07:39 | <avoozl> | I can run another if that makes sense |
| 18:08:00 | <purplebot> | Coronavirus edited by Wessel1512 (+178, /* Netherlands */) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46249&oldid=46217 |
| 18:08:13 | <avoozl> | I'm happy I was able to keep it all self-contained. you can basically just run warceater (or warceater.exe) ingest *.warc.gz and then run it with the serve command to get this |
| 18:08:22 | <@JAA> | Nice! |
| 18:08:25 | <avoozl> | indexes are purely on-disk, need no other service. will take up a ton of space though |
| 18:08:36 | <avoozl> | and the post-extraction logic is still very much hardcoded |
| 18:09:38 | <avoozl> | basically like this: https://imgur.com/a/RWZyKpz |
| 18:09:54 | <avoozl> | but this would be fairly easy to change into something that takes these selectors from some kind of configuration file |
| 18:10:00 | <avoozl> | that's low on my prio's though |
| 18:10:28 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that can always be changed later. |
| 18:12:47 | <@JAA> | 'Searched for ".euw.", found 17790182 results in 7.770624154 seconds.' Well... lol |
| 18:13:14 | <avoozl> | haha yeah the url field is probably matching as well |
| 18:13:21 | <avoozl> | There's a syntax to do field based queries as well |
| 18:13:41 | <avoozl> | try msg:.iew. |
| 18:14:03 | <avoozl> | you can also use this to search for user names, thread ids, etcetera. but the field names are not all exposed yet |
| 18:14:21 | <@JAA> | Ah, very nice! |
| 18:14:25 | <avoozl> | https://blevesearch.com/docs/Query-String-Query/ is the current syntax, due to me using that search engine under water |
| 18:14:45 | <avoozl> | that may change, because I don't like the memory-mapped index structure bleve is using for this kind of slow-retrieval-huge-db situation |
| 18:15:05 | <avoozl> | I'd rather have something where the index can be in object/http storage and we retrieve bits of it on-demand... but that is another story |
| 18:16:05 | <avoozl> | it's currently running on my desktop, so it go down at some point.. I'll try and get some more info out over the next week |
| 18:16:57 | <@JAA> | Sounds great, and excellent work so far! |
| 18:17:20 | <avoozl> | pagination is also on my list. you currently only get the first 100 items |
| 18:17:56 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I noticed that. (Please no JS infinite pagination crap.) :-) |
| 18:18:32 | <avoozl> | haha no. I will just use normal html based stuff. there is no functional js in there right now. I didn't test but everything should work even with javascript off, though it'll look different I guess |
| 18:19:32 | <@JAA> | I didn't see any JS at all, and it's fully usable without it at the moment. |
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| 18:19:36 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 18:20:07 | <avoozl> | The only thing where I'd like to put some JS in is when I would add something like faceting or timeline range selection.. because doing that in purely form post/retrieve would be a pain |
| 18:21:12 | <thuban> | progressive enhancement: it still works! who knew? :) |
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| 18:47:31 | <Sanqui> | !a < https://etc.sanqui.net/archiveteam/webzdarma/webzdarma_mwlinkscrape_04 --no-offsite |
| 18:47:36 | <Sanqui> | ...yeah not here |
| 18:49:00 | <purplebot> | Webzdarma edited by Sanqui (+89, webzdarma_mwlinkscrape_04 and 05) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46250&oldid=46248 |
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| 20:11:56 | <avoozl> | ok running a new index version, so search frontend is offline, we'll see more later :) |
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| 21:44:31 | <mgrandi> | Do we currently have something for watching twitter accounts for new posts? |
| 21:45:17 | <mgrandi> | Don't want to have to keep wasting AB resources to grab a person's entire twitter history repeatedly when there is probably only a few new urls |
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| 22:22:50 | <atphoenix> | human eyes are the only thing I know of right now. I think there was a 'since' or some other date-based option; not sure that still is an option. |
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| 22:24:28 | <@JAA> | Yes, 'since' exists as do some other operators. Twitter no longer has public documentation on them though. |
| 22:27:34 | <thuban> | JAA: accessible via the search, or only through the api (and therefore with a developer key)? |
| 22:30:15 | <@JAA> | Search. I'm not familiar with the API. |
| 22:38:45 | <mgrandi> | The API uses pagination since stuff changes so much, but the initial search query might have it |
| 22:39:02 | <mgrandi> | Also the api is limited to like 4k tweets per account but that might be OK for getting recent stuff |
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