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00:22:00<lennier1>8kun is apparently down and going Tor only: https://twitter.com/fr_brennan/status/1348897011014258688
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00:23:31<Dallas>Is that like 4chan where the threads expire and delete?
00:27:31<EggplantN_>lennier1 urm, who was their provider
00:27:40<EggplantN_>I know NickLim was previously bit mitigate
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00:33:05<lennier1>According to Wikipedia, it uses Russian service providers, including ddos-guard.net.
00:33:24<lennier1>Not too familiar with how it works, though I know its origin is with 4chan.
00:35:00<EggplantN_>Ah yes
00:35:05<EggplantN_>ddos-guard via spartanhost
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00:35:24<Dallas>Is there any point archiving a site that deletes everything so often ? We’d have to do it every day surely
00:45:13<atphoenix>it'd need to be something like #shreddit, and otherwise worthwhile
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00:51:42<EggplantN_>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4nfzHCqT/image.png
00:51:47<EggplantN_>the shit we do for archiveteam
00:55:24<OrIdow6>arkiver: I presum 8kun
00:56:03<OrIdow6>That may be too hot to touch, from what I've heard
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00:59:02<@kiska> At the same time... Parler is quite hot too
00:59:56<crispyalice2>Newbie here, but something being hot doesnt seem like a good reason to not archive it. Wouldnt that make it more desirable to archive?
01:04:06<OrIdow6>I suppose my question is whether IA will take it
01:04:30<Billy549>I mean if they're taking Parler content? :shrug:
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02:17:05<PhantomTypist>oddball question, but does anyone happen to have hoarded old versions of the Parler apk?
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02:19:34<@JAA>PhantomTypist: APKPure is your friend: https://apkpure.com/parler/com.parler.parler (And yes, that has been archived just in case.)
02:20:35<purplebot>MediaFire edited by Ajay (+137, Added URL Submission site) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46161&oldid=46087
02:23:11<crispyalice2>Going back to 8kun: they have an archive page set up, so it shouldn't be hard to mirror that, although i don't think every post gets to it bc while there are a lot, theres no way thats all of them. Also, the ids aren't sequential but they are just numbers and only have 4 (maybe 5) unique digits
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02:26:52<PhantomTypist>JAA, lol i see what they did
02:26:57<PhantomTypist>can search for it though
02:27:00<PhantomTypist>*cant
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02:28:55<fuzzy8021>anyone know someone at twelve99.net. seeems to be the common link of traffic that keeps dropping me :(
02:29:13<EggplantN_>That's Telia
02:29:19<EggplantN_>What issues you seeing fuzzy8021
02:30:02<fuzzy8021>not sure but keep getting dropped from here one other irc net and a ping monitor keeps going off and thats the common link for a tracert
02:30:33<fuzzy8021> 5 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms omha-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.75.166]
02:30:34<fuzzy8021> 6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms chi-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.143.182]
02:30:49<fuzzy8021>only commonality of all 3
02:30:52<EggplantN_>hrm. unaware of any AS1299 issues
02:33:26<fuzzy8021>ill add those to monitoring and see what happens
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02:43:38<PhantomTypist>Someone is archiving feeds.... https://hub.docker.com/u/simon987
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02:47:31<aleph>PhantomTypist: Docker contains to archive feeds then?
02:48:40<PhantomTypist>yep
02:48:46<PhantomTypist>on all the "popular" sites
02:48:57<PhantomTypist>stumbled across it while doing work on #failwhale
02:49:25<PhantomTypist>maybe it's the same person as simon816 on this channel?
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02:53:01<aleph>Heh nifty
02:58:57<PhantomTypist>i guess it's a personal thing because none of his github repos elaborate as to how to run them. looks like there is a volume mounted but i have no clue what files are supposed to go in there that get run by python
02:59:16<PhantomTypist>caught my eye he's also scraping all of 4chan and koal too
02:59:35<PhantomTypist>basically he's scraping all the alt-right stuff
03:01:09<OrIdow6>Koal?
03:02:15<OrIdow6>If that's just a typo of Poal, I'm suggesting it for the channel name of the latter, whenever it goes down
03:08:28<PhantomTypist>haha
03:08:34<PhantomTypist>android auto correct
03:09:44<PhantomTypist>i didn't even know it existed, but let's say it looks Parler-esq
03:09:56<@JAA>Lots of people from Voat moved there when it went down recently.
03:10:27<PhantomTypist>damn this guy has some nice repos/projects
03:10:37<PhantomTypist>i hope he's someone on here
03:10:42<PhantomTypist>or she
03:10:47<PhantomTypist>or whatever
03:13:20<TheFluffyCat>simon816 hey what's up! Cool repos :^)
03:13:44<TheFluffyCat>Scraping 4Chan might not be a bad idea
03:13:52<TheFluffyCat>And 8Kun.
03:17:23<PhantomTypist>TheFluffyCat might just be a coincidence and not that person
03:17:51<@JAA>TIL there's more than one person called 'Simon'. I know, amazing, right?
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03:24:28<TheFluffyCat>Hah. not wise name choice
03:24:41<TheFluffyCat>I'm sure if there's an API it'd be 100% worth saving the JSON, let me check
03:25:08<PhantomTypist>i'm not sure you'd want to save the images on those
03:25:42<TheFluffyCat>At least not publicly
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04:01:49<aleph>Wonder how much posts 4chan sees daily
04:09:39<sierra_wright>a lot, i used to spider several of the boards and it was crazy
04:09:47<Arcorann>Depends on the board
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04:45:51<@kiska>Did someone say /b/
04:46:18<kiiwiiwastaken>me
04:48:07<Arcorann>Speaking of which, someone should write up something on yuki.la for the 4chan wiki page
04:50:35<purplebot>Deathwatch edited by Nemo bis (+252, /* 2021 */ +Crowdmap) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46162&oldid=46110
04:50:45<@JAA>^ https://crowdmap.com/ is shutting down on Friday.
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04:56:44<Billy549>If it's shutting down Friday, would it be a good idea to get a warrior container ready for it? or is it already being put into the bot or similar
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04:57:49<@JAA>First, someone would have to look into it to determine what, if anything, can be archived and how.
04:58:21<@JAA>It's using cookies for switching between the 'classic' and 'beta' site, which complicates things.
04:59:43<Billy549>I see :P
04:59:59<TheFluffyCat>Is there an IRC + API?
05:02:42<Billy549>JAA: cURL'ing with the Cookie "cmgatekeeper=1E143D8A6764015D;" gives me classic
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05:05:34<Billy549>but it seems like trying to search for any map just gives an empty response
05:06:09<Billy549>so im wondering if theyve already shut it down early and just keep it up for migration purposes
05:08:27<Arcorann>https://monsoonmonitoring.crowdmap.com/main <-- at least, this thing is still up
05:09:49<Billy549>https://monsoonmonitoring.crowdmap.com/json
05:09:54<Billy549>Uses that to get the map data at least
05:10:20<Billy549>if you just remove the arguments it gives all data
05:12:26<@JAA>Not all, descriptions of reports are not included for example.
05:12:35<Billy549>Ah yeah, that's true
05:12:41<Billy549>and it only seems to be for that specific map :p
05:12:51<@JAA>Yeah, each map seems to be on a subdomain.
05:15:23<Billy549>that's infuriating :P
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07:40:38<systwi>Ooh, HackMii, that name rings a bell.
07:40:59<systwi>Larsenv: ^
07:41:26<systwi>I wonder if there was any relation to the BootMii creators. Probably not. Well, maybe.
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09:02:38<HackMii>systwi, Of course it is. Oh he's here? Interesting.
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09:13:16<systwi>HackMii: :D
09:13:32<systwi>Huge fan, sorry, I thought it could be an impersonator
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09:14:32<systwi>I also thought HackMii was a group of devs, and not a single entity. TIL
09:17:58<HackMii>It was a group of devs, I juah confirmed that it was a reference.
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10:07:42<OrIdow6>From preliminary examination looks like CrowdMap is archiv-able to some extent
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10:11:59<OrIdow6>Don't know how well it would play back, my optimistic guess would be that the map would sort of work (you'd just get the report clusters on a white background) and everything else would - but there are a million ways for it to break - in any case looks like it's possible to get the data
10:17:05<OrIdow6>Someone should look into discovery
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10:32:14<ccafe>Has a channel been set up yet for crowdmap? I'm looking into how best to find out what subdomains are live atm
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11:06:11<OrIdow6>No channel, just -bs
11:06:56<OrIdow6>There are various public sources that can list subdomains (there's a wiki page somewhere), but ideally what would be found now is a comprehensive list from the site itself
11:07:26<OrIdow6>Unless you mean something other than doing discovery by "find out what subdomains are live"
11:16:09<ccafe>I figured seeing what subdomains are existing via osint and building a script to check if they were still accessible would be a start until someone smarter comes along since I can't see a way to get a list from the platform itself, but I'm gathering from your tone that I shouldn't be doing that. Sorry if I was being over-eager, I'll step back :)
11:22:34<purplebot>Template:Czech websites edited by Sanqui (+19, add hostuju.cz) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=46163&oldid=46145
11:32:12<OrIdow6>There's nothing wrong with it
11:32:18<OrIdow6>It's just a question of return per unit labor
11:36:50<OrIdow6>If this is done by a warrior project, checking if online will probably be unnecessary
11:37:08<OrIdow6>As those items will fail, and can be examined after that happens
11:51:18<OrIdow6>https://crowdmap.com/explore/maps has now magically started working for me
11:51:35<ccafe>Fair enough, I'll leave it in that case. Got all day off today and will be back available tomorrow evening (5:30 GMT) so feel free to ping me to get some warriors spun up for it if needed
11:51:58<OrIdow6>Ok
11:52:07<Aoede>/explore/ works on classic site
11:52:24<OrIdow6>Still possible what you were doing could end up being useful
11:52:32<OrIdow6>If there turns out not to be a comprehensive way
11:55:11<OrIdow6>Anyone want to run this in AB? I assume https://crowdmap.com, with an early ignore for https://crowdmap.com/switch/new , might work
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13:57:57<Billy549>OrIdow6: Does AB have support for cookies?
13:58:12<Billy549>iirc the "view classic site" is a small cookie, i sent a cURL request with it and I got classic site only
13:58:21<OrIdow6>Billy549: No
13:58:25<Billy549>i see
13:58:45<OrIdow6>But (unless something has changed) it does pick up cookies during the crawl
13:59:03<@ChanServ>EggplantN now has flags +v in the group !archiveteam-core which communally has +AFORSVefiorstv on #archiveteam-bs.
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13:59:40<Billy549>I get 404 on https://crowdmap.com/explore/maps without cookie, sending "Cookie: cmgatekeeper=1E143D8A6764015D;" gives me the classic
13:59:48<OrIdow6>Yes
14:00:49<OrIdow6>My idea (basically to make things easier, and to get docs etc.) was to start AB in such a way that it would pick up on the cookie during the crawl
14:00:59<Billy549>That's fair enough :P
14:01:14<OrIdow6>In the interest of time, I think the list will have to be wgotten or similar
14:01:18<Billy549>some data (but not all) is in SUBDOMAIN.crowdmap.com/json but i assume that'll be picked up by AB
14:01:26<OrIdow6>Since apparently this thing is shutting down Friday
14:01:38<OrIdow6>I'm assuming that the project proper will be a warrior project
14:01:45<OrIdow6>Since there's a lot of dynamic stuff
14:01:47<Billy549>Yeah
14:03:27<Billy549>I'd be up for running a warrior as soon as one's ready (assuming it's a docker container) :P
14:04:29<OrIdow6>Thanks for finding the JSON thing by the way
14:04:33<Billy549>No prob c:
14:04:49<Billy549>I don't think it's all data (someone mentioned it doesnt have everything), but if you dont specify categories it will give ALL points
14:04:57<Billy549>*but* i don't think it tells you what category is which
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14:07:00<OrIdow6>From the web interface etc.
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14:11:49<Aoede>https://transfer.notkiska.pw/bixp2/crowdmapsub.txt
14:12:11<Aoede>1300~ subdomains from /explore
14:12:25<Aoede>not sure if it's complete, I had some problems with my script
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14:24:58<Billy549>OrIdow6: that will be useful :P
14:26:13<OrIdow6>Yeah
14:26:59<Billy549>Aoede: what was your script doing? (and what probs) c:
14:29:37<Aoede>Billy549: scrapy crawler with regex to extract links. I messed the regex pattern the first time
14:36:20<Billy549>Ah ok, I see :P
14:36:46<Billy549>I wonder if with ~1300 to scrape if it'd even make sense to warrior it
14:37:45<Jonboy3451>Idea for an archiveteam project: MLB Filmroom: https://www.mlb.com/video Loads of archival footage free to view.
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14:40:11<Billy549>Powered by Google Cloud, interesting
14:41:19<AK>How bad is it for a a task to be cancelled without waiting for it to finish? (touched STOP inside github container half an hour ago and it's still not finished). Happy to wait if it does cause problems
14:47:08<@arkiver>AK: feel free to kill it
14:48:39<ccafe>Billy549, OrIdow6 - may be of use relating to the /json endpoint, saw it having a quick look through github out of curiosity - /api?task=incidents&limit=[1-Whatever] - example https://worldushahidis.crowdmap.com/api?task=incidents&limit=1000
14:50:56<ccafe>tried it with up to 10k and seems to work, albeit slowly. I assume the query is expensive on the backend so I'd use caution before hammering it
14:55:18<Billy549>that sounds useful :P
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16:05:47<atphoenix>channel ideas, if you want some: crowdmap -> crowdead
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17:28:54<EggplantN>hrm new worker been found
17:32:11<SketchTheCow>Anything need my attention?
17:33:05<EggplantN>no fires today i dont believe
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18:03:35<sierra_wright>so i've got a question about these url shortener projects. i'm watching the warrior and there are far more misses than hits... are the misses also being documented so they can be checked later? because it's not like the services aren't in active use
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18:05:58<phuzion>sierra_wright: #urlteam, but no, we don't log the misses, but if we wanted to go back and re-check misses, we could just generate the inverse of the hits using the data we do collect (which is which URLs are hits, and what they coshorten to)
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18:20:37<TheFluffyCat68>Yeah, I can't message NickServ here though. It won't respond :/
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21:38:29<Larsenv>systwi: they probably are named that as a coincidence
21:38:51<Larsenv>nothing to do with Wii or Nintendo?
21:41:12<Larsenv>Ryz and JAA: so you remember how I was archiving https://gametdb.com/ ? I did it without the owner's permission, and I'm friends with the admin and I known him for 7 years. I told him about the Archive.org scrape and he says he noticed some higher server load because of the scrape, and he told me to ask before doing that next time lol. I didn't ask because I hesitated to and I didn't want him to say no
21:42:05<Larsenv>I'm sure a lot of webmasters wouldn't be happy about scraping, but I'd rather them be unhappy than have the site lost to time
21:42:32<Ryz>Mm, wild stuff~ >#<;
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21:44:52<Larsenv>He didn't get mad at me for scraping
21:45:07<Larsenv>here's what he said
21:45:08<Larsenv>About archive.org I did notice heavier load on the server. How big is the total size of the archive?
21:45:08<Larsenv>I wish you would have told me first, it's not very cool to learn about it after the fact. In the future please tell me if you do anything like that, I would appreciate it.
21:45:08<Larsenv>I do keep complete backups and if anything happens to me a relative of mine would get the content out there.
21:45:09<Larsenv>That being said, the purpose of GameTDB was always to be an open database, so it's great that there's a backup :)
21:45:09<Larsenv>The way I see it, it's nice that it's preserved, but it makes it easier for people to add the whole content to their site without having to at least do some work, and the more people do that, the less people will contribute to GameTDB.
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21:45:49<Ryz>Ooo, interesting perspective from the webmaster~
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