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01:01:58<SketchTheCow>Hi, I'm back.
01:02:04<SketchTheCow>If there's something that needs me, let me know.
01:04:49<@JAA>Hey Jason. Uh something's going on with teamarchive1 and FOS. No longer reporting to Telegraf since a few days, and I think the uploader on 1 broke a while ago as its disk space never dropped anymore.
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01:15:48<atphoenix>I think the ArchiveBot description in WBM needs editing to point to the wiki instead of to EFnet
01:42:09<SketchTheCow>Sure, let me check.
01:42:35<SketchTheCow>So, first, FOS has 4.4tb free. So no panic there.
01:43:02<SketchTheCow>TEAMARCHIVE1 has 1.9 free
01:43:43<SketchTheCow>Both think they're running telegraf
01:44:21<SketchTheCow>What's the service name for telegraf again? I'll stop and start.
01:45:09<SketchTheCow>systemctl restart telegraf
01:45:35<SketchTheCow>Done on both.
01:46:08<SketchTheCow>So, if this works, great. If it fails, it's because someone at IA changed the network access.
01:46:12<SketchTheCow>And I'll have to discuss it with them.
01:48:37<SketchTheCow>OK, looks strongly like a blockage.
01:50:55<@JAA>Doesn't look like it works. Last datapoint was on the 12th at 11:40 UTC.
01:53:02<@JAA>And yeah, no space issues so far, but ta1 dropped to near-zero before and then just climbed to 18 % and stalled there nearly two weeks ago.
01:54:20<@JAA>https://atdash.meo.ws/d/000000058/telegraf-detail?viewPanel=21&orgId=1&from=1606689287342&to=1607371773077&var-includeall=false&var-user=sketchcow&var-host=teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org
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01:55:36<@JAA>NB, nothing's uploading to ta1 since then because pipeline hardware issues and stuff.
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02:09:19<SketchTheCow>I just had our guy check.
02:09:29<SketchTheCow>Ports are all open on our side.
02:09:43<SketchTheCow>Packets absolutely leaving heading to atdash.meo.ws
02:10:34<@JAA>Huh
02:10:41<@JAA>Fusl?
03:14:32<@Fusl_>grep telegraf /var/log/syslog
03:30:09<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:33 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:33Z W! [outputs.influxdb] Metric buffer overflow; 138 metrics have been dropped
03:30:12<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:33 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:33Z E! [outputs.influxdb] When writing to [http://atdash.meo.ws:8086]: 401 Unauthorized: authorization failed
03:30:17<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:33 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:33Z E! [agent] Error writing to outputs.influxdb: could not write any address
03:30:20<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:41 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:41Z W! [outputs.influxdb] Metric buffer overflow; 276 metrics have been dropped
03:30:23<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:41 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:41Z E! [outputs.influxdb] When writing to [http://atdash.meo.ws:8086]: 401 Unauthorized: authorization failed
03:30:27<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:41 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:41Z E! [agent] Error writing to outputs.influxdb: could not write any address
03:30:30<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:48 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:48Z W! [outputs.influxdb] Metric buffer overflow; 138 metrics have been dropped
03:30:33<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:49 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:49Z E! [outputs.influxdb] When writing to [http://atdash.meo.ws:8086]: 401 Unauthorized: authorization failed
03:30:37<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:49 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:49Z E! [agent] Error writing to outputs.influxdb: could not write any address
03:30:40<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:54 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:54Z W! [outputs.influxdb] Metric buffer overflow; 138 metrics have been dropped
03:30:43<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:55 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:55Z E! [outputs.influxdb] When writing to [http://atdash.meo.ws:8086]: 401 Unauthorized: authorization failed
03:30:47<SketchTheCow>Dec 15 03:29:55 teamarchive1.fnf.archive.org telegraf[686745]: 2020-12-15T03:29:55Z E! [agent] Error writing to outputs.influxdb: could not write any address
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03:51:35<SketchTheCow>So there you go
04:00:42<@Fusl>SketchTheCow: can you dm me the password field from your telegraf.conf?
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07:11:24<flirora>so I took a chance at appealing to atwiki and it seems that the support team is willing to give me a second chance, but I think it's better if I go away from archiving for a while
07:11:36<flirora>chan ops: please ban me for the next 3 months
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09:43:44<OrIdow6>What's the context of that?
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09:50:05<ddd123427>Hello.
09:50:23<ddd123427>You will need to log in to your account to view the pages of videos that have been deleted in the past.
09:50:52<ddd123427>There are approximately 38000000 video pages in total.
09:51:02<OrIdow6>ddd123427: What website are you talking about?
09:51:23<ddd123427>https://www.nicovideo.jp/
09:52:07<OrIdow6>What is being deleted? The entire website, or just a piece of it?
09:52:18<purplebot>Coronavirus/Notable deaths edited by Ka (+227, /* Table */ fixing format) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45902&oldid=45237
09:52:18<purplebot>Deathwatch edited by Ka (+661, /* 2020 */) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45903&oldid=45900
09:54:31<ddd123427>過去に動画データが削除された動画のメタデータが削除されます。
09:54:36<ddd123427>Metadata for videos whose video data has been deleted in the past will be deleted.
09:55:55<OrIdow6>When will the deletion happen?
09:57:03<ddd123427>The deletion will happen by spring 2021.
09:59:09<OrIdow6>https://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/141893.html - shutdown notice
10:01:16<OrIdow6>Page claims (to quote Google Translate) "The specific schedule will be announced on NicoNico Info as soon as it is decided."
10:03:26<OrIdow6>ddd123427: Is the site very slow? For example, does it take more than a few seconds to load a page? Does the site stop working if a large number of people use it at the same time?
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10:07:49<OrIdow6>I have some things to do, so I'll just say it all now:
10:08:30<OrIdow6>- If the site is fast enough, ArchiveTeam probably won't get to it until spring. If or when they announce the exact shutdown dates, you should come on here and tell us.
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10:08:40<OrIdow6>Oh, never mind then.
10:09:42<OrIdow6>If they come back and someone else has the opportunity to be the receptionist... tell them about Deathwatch
10:10:55<OrIdow6>And maybe give the rundown on how to add to it, i.e. you need an account & a link to the shutdown notice is preferable
10:12:13<thuban>we should do some digging and figure out what the "My Memory" function (also being deleted) is--could easily be either private or public
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10:14:40<ddd1234>The site is fast. It's not often that the site stops with a lot of people using it at the same time.
10:14:42<ddd1234>However, continuous access in a short period of time is not possible.
10:16:10<thuban>ddd1234: do you know what the "My Memory" feature is? is it also something that can or should be archived?
10:18:01<Arcorann>What site is this, and has it been added to Deathwatch?
10:18:51<thuban>Arcorann: nicovideo.jp (not the whole site, just metadata pertaining to already-deleted videos); no, but i'll get to it tomorrow if no one else does
10:20:02<Arcorann>I see
10:20:35<ddd1234>"My Memory" is a feature that allows you to record the comments at that point in time. It does not need to be archived.
10:23:34<Arcorann>When you look at that don't forget to update the page the wiki already has if necessary--> https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Niconico
10:28:20<thuban>the good news is that it looks like video ids are sequential. the bad news is that there are a lot of deleted videos. i'll check out the api at some point
10:34:16<ddd1234>Arcorann: ok
10:37:55<thuban>ddd1234: i believe that was for me, although you're welcome to edit the wiki if you wish! thanks for letting us know about this.
10:41:10<ddd1234>thuban: Oh, I see. I don't have editing privileges, so please edit.
10:49:45<Arcorann>You might as well create an account on the wiki, it's free
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11:33:04<OrIdow6>ddd1234: What do you mean, "continuous access in a short period of time is not possible"?
11:33:26<OrIdow6>And another useful wiki page: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch
11:33:58<OrIdow6>This is a list of shutdowns that ArchiveTeam knows about
11:41:02<ddd1234>OrIdow6: If you access the site many times in a short period of time, an error message will be displayed. It is necessary to allow an interval for access.
11:41:20<ddd1234>https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E7%9F%AD%E6%99%82%E9%96%93%E3%81%A7%E3%81%AE%E9%80%A3%E7%B6%9A%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BB%E3%82%B9%E3%81%AF%E3%81%94%E9%81%A0%E6%85%AE%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A0%E3%81%95%E3%81%84
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11:50:14<VerifiedJ>My download of archiviolastampa.it is almost finished, just downloading items with missing images.
11:52:48<VerifiedJ>~69,500 files totaling 916GB
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13:15:26<betamax>Sploder.com, a one-popular flash-based game making website, will be shutting down around the end of December
13:15:29<betamax>there are around 4.5 million user-made games, the forums, member profiles, member groups, and the game makers themselves
13:16:02<betamax>I don't know much about flash archiving, but as a former user of the site (~10 years ago), I'd like to see it preserved in some form
13:16:33<OrIdow6>Put it on the Deathwatch
13:18:46<OrIdow6>So, update on where I am: working on .eu domains, next will do Smackjeeves, I think
13:20:34<OrIdow6>Unless someone else does it, obviously
13:21:57<OrIdow6>Anyone started work on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Freshlive ?
13:22:43<OrIdow6>3 days until that shuts down
13:23:10<betamax>OrIdow6: added (pending moderation)
13:23:19<OrIdow6>Ok, good
13:23:45<betamax>I will try and make a separate page with the site structure, but others familuar with flash will be needed to work out how to go about the actual archiving process
13:24:49<OrIdow6>Hopefully it's simple enough
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13:25:29<OrIdow6>I don't know much about Flash, that's for sure; all I can do is watch what it does in Wireshark
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13:25:45<OrIdow6>Sanqui: I see you did some work on Freshlive, what's the status of that?
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13:26:27<Sanqui>OrIdow6: no clue frankly, I just helped ragu__ put their m3u8 videos in archivebot and it ran through
13:26:55<OrIdow6>Oh
13:27:07<Sanqui>also there's two articles for some reason, they need merging :(
13:30:19<OrIdow6>Hm
13:32:52<OrIdow6>That list only has 7832 lines, maybe it'll be possible to do with AB or something like that
13:33:01<Sanqui>I already ran that list through archivebot
13:33:06<Sanqui>it's archived
13:34:28<OrIdow6>I mean, the videos themselves
13:34:38<OrIdow6>Transport segments
13:34:52<OrIdow6>That is
13:34:57<Sanqui>well, yes, they were downloaded
13:35:00<Sanqui>it was a few gb?
13:35:58<OrIdow6>Which job?
13:39:11<OrIdow6>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/bulhc was the m3u8s, got up to about 800mb
13:41:20<OrIdow6>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/8mdqc got the website, and went up to ~107 GB, but I don't see any of the .ts files in question in the meta warc
13:42:15<Sanqui>ok, sorry, no clue
13:42:27<Sanqui>if you can get another list I'd be happy to put it in ab
13:42:33<OrIdow6>Maybe I'm skipping something over
13:43:03<OrIdow6>Ok, I'll see about that tomorrow
13:43:19<VerifiedJ>archiviolastampa.it is now offline with a message saying it will be available again from February 15, 2021.
13:43:27<OrIdow6>(Again, if it doesn't turn out that I'm missing something obvious)
13:43:46<Sanqui>nah sorry I really don't know much about that project idk why I put myself as leader
13:43:52<Sanqui>maybe because I knew something when I did put it but lol
13:47:51<OrIdow6>Whoever decides the direction of a canoe, is still the captain
13:47:53<OrIdow6>No worries
13:48:07<OrIdow6>Thank you
13:48:18<Sanqui>in that case you have my full authorization to steer
13:48:20<Sanqui>:P
13:49:26<Sanqui>in news of what I DO know though, I'm working on a new tool for medium-scale Discord server archival operations, interested people should join #discard for updates & fruitful discussion
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16:18:16<betamax>I'm trying to upload a file to the wiki, and I get the error "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file."
16:19:05<betamax>(this isn't important, just trying to add logo / image for the wiki page for Sploder I've just created)
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16:43:48<@JAA>I still think that's an interference with the moderation extension.
16:44:15<@JAA>betamax: Try again.
16:45:01<honno>Ahh sorry I used the wrong chat heh, uh JAA you got any ideas on my q? I'll just post what I said before here
16:45:19<purplebot>Deathwatch edited by Betamax (+216, /* 2020 */ Added Sploder to 2020 …) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45904&oldid=45903
16:45:19<purplebot>Sploder created by Betamax (+6439, New page for Sploder, closing December …) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45905&oldid=0
16:46:02<@JAA>No worries. (Context: #archiveteam)
16:46:06<honno>Bit confused on how one would deal with the files that result from a megawarc-factory job (specific example I'm interested in: https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_gamemaker). I get how to use warcs individually (e.g. set up a pywb session), but I'm not sure how I should proceed to locally run an instance of megawarcs. I get that there's the megawarc python script that can "restore" megawarcs from the
16:46:06<honno>.warc.gz/.tar.json.gz files in each of the collection items, and this results in a tar file. I'm currently doing this for each folder locally but wondering once it's all done, how can I use the resulting tars? Do they get merged somehow? Or are restoring the megawarcs actually pointless if I want to use the archive?
16:46:30<@JAA>I've never used megawarc restores, but I think it produces a tar of the WARCs that went into one megawarc.
16:47:03<@JAA>But the fundamental question is: what are you trying to do exactly?
16:47:03<honno>Is a megawarc actually infact just a big WARC split up into chunks for IA purposes?
16:47:20<@JAA>A megawarc is effectively just concatenated WARCs.
16:47:24<honno>Ahh Im trying to 1) browse the WARC collections locally 1.5) to scrape it
16:47:29<@JAA>It's a valid WARC itself.
16:47:45<honno>Oo
16:47:49<@JAA>So you could import it into pywb directly.
16:48:19<purplebot>File:Sploder-logo.png uploaded by Betamax (+0) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45906&oldid=0
16:48:19<purplebot>File:Sploder-homepage.png uploaded by Betamax (+0) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45907&oldid=0
16:48:37<betamax>JAA: that's it working fine now, thanks
16:48:37<@JAA>Heh, well, that proves it then I guess.
16:48:53<@JAA>jrwr: Moderation extension is blocking file uploads. Can that be fixed?
16:49:20<@JAA>betamax got that same error as others reported before, added to automoderated, now it works.
16:50:25<honno>For pywb, what does that exactly mean? I still need to restore the megawarcs? or I can just copy and paste the .warc.gz files into archive/ and the idx stuff into /indexes <- I did that and running wayback did not recognize any URLs
16:52:02<@JAA>honno: https://pywb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/usage.html#using-existing-web-archive-collections
16:52:14<honno>Ayup thats what I followed
16:52:23<@JAA>Did you run cdx-convert?
16:52:26<honno>Yep
16:52:29<@JAA>Hmm
16:52:46<honno>Hmm maybe it gave a false positive, it said everythings alright, but to clarify I used the files with the (lemme check the extension)
16:52:59<honno>.cdx.gz files
16:54:08<honno>And /archive was full of the .megawarc.warc.gz files
16:54:15<@JAA>Maybe it needs uncompressed CDX files.
16:54:27<honno>Ah yea Ill try that now
16:56:19<honno>Ah so now it is converting the cdx to cdxj files, which seems promising behaviour
16:56:44<@JAA>Yeah, that sounds good.
17:04:11<SketchTheCow>Fusl_: Sent
17:04:20<honno>JAA the URLs are recognised now, thanks so much :D guess I asummed coz tools worked with compressed warcs itd be same for these files heh. got a problem with actually loading the pages but think need to restructure my /archive folder
17:04:20<SketchTheCow>Do you need it again
17:08:00<@JAA>honno: Nice! :-) Yeah, since the CDX is the index, it doesn't really make sense to store it compressed since you need to actively access it all the time and decompressing constantly is expensive. I believe the CDX files inside the items aren't really used at all when you access something through the WBM; they're produced by the derive and then added to the full index of the WBM, which I believe is
17:08:06<@JAA>stored in plain for exactly that reason.
17:08:47<honno>ahh cool, I'm getting why the warc format exists now lol
17:09:47<Sanqui>has anybody thought about adding WARC support to something like VCR.py?
17:11:30<@JAA>Hah, turns out I basically reimplemented VCR.py a while ago for my snscrape tests as I didn't know about it. lol
17:12:02<Sanqui>oh damn. I'll be using VCR.py for my new Discord archival tool, with a custom serializer
17:12:39<@JAA>Well, I'm sure VCR.py does it better than my thing and covers more cases etc. I like to reinvent wheels anyway.
17:13:01<Sanqui>well, it doesn't cover websockets
17:13:33<Sanqui>I'm not planning to output WARCs at all at the moment because nobody would be using WARC replay tools for this anyway
17:13:52<Sanqui>I might use the default serializer (yaml) but I'll have to see how much it would balloon file sizes
17:14:18<Sanqui>want to be a bit pragmatic too. no need to store every single header coming from discord...
17:14:18<purplebot>Sploder edited by Betamax (+57, Added logo / image to Sploder page) 23 minutes ago -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45908&oldid=45905
17:21:06<honno>it works now woo! Im wondering if folk here have done web scraping projects on large local pywb instances? It's really slow right now.
17:22:29<honno>the pywb docs talk about indexing but that's the same thing the cdx files have already done right?
17:23:20<honno>oo I see, I guess its when I load a page its requesting lots of different things found in different locations or even different warc files... so is there a huge overnight job I could to produce a "static site" of my warc collection?
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17:48:51<@Fusl>SketchTheCow: didnt get any
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18:50:18<purplebot>ISP Hosting edited by Atphoenix (+354, added users.telenet.be) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45909&oldid=45720
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19:16:18<purplebot>ISP Hosting edited by Atphoenix (+45) 24 minutes ago -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45910&oldid=45909
19:26:09<@kiska>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/399891ba737b8fc5/image.png RIP drafts?
19:44:23<atphoenix>lastampa website says (translated) "The service will be available again from February 15, 2021."
19:53:53<SketchTheCow>Oh nice
19:54:02<SketchTheCow>I see hackint needs me to log in to message you
19:54:06<SketchTheCow>Fuck it, you'll get it on slack
19:58:29<SketchTheCow>It's messaged to you on the archive slack
19:58:38<SketchTheCow>This login thing with hackint is boring and dull
20:00:03<@JAA>Ah yes, unlike the login requirement on Slack, right?
20:38:04<@Fusl>JAA: telegraf for ta1 and ta2 fixed
20:49:23<@JAA>Yay, thanks!
20:52:18<purplebot>Deathwatch edited by Vicarage (+143) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45911&oldid=45904
21:34:23<@kiska>Damn periscope :D
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21:53:27<tech234a>Additional FAQ: https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/periscope-faq
21:53:51<tech234a>It seems that it will go read-only: "Periscope web at periscope.tv/periscopeco, will remain available as a read-only archive of public broadcasts."
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22:09:15<@arkiver>yeah periscope
22:09:32<@arkiver>we'll at least wait likely until it is read only
22:13:18<purplebot>Deathwatch edited by Tech234a (+229, Add Periscope), Tech234a (+207, Add additional information about …), Tech234a (+22, Another Periscope clarification) 10 minutes ago -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45914&oldid=45911
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23:50:24<EggplantN_>Hrm perisocope so sad
23:50:41<EggplantN_>I mean if we can get scripts done (i may be able to feb time) we could go ahead low concurrent
23:50:58<EggplantN_>especially if we can get discovery done early
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