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| 00:29:09 | <s-crypt> | Has this been noted/acted on yet? I dont see a mention in the IRC logs. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/netmarketshare-ends-browser-war-reports-due-to-google-chrome-changes/ |
| 00:53:38 | <@JAA> | 'Chrome' and 'privacy' in the same sentence. lol |
| 00:53:51 | <@JAA> | But no, hasn't been mentioned yet. |
| 01:33:47 | <mgrandi> | to be fair, this change is supported by all browsers |
| 01:34:38 | <mgrandi> | to kill just the Frankenstein's monster that is the user agent string and then have 'client hints' that are way more 'private' in the fact that they don't report super specific information, just the generics |
| 01:36:19 | <mgrandi> | so instead of what it is now which is pretty much the exact version of your browser and maybe OS, it would have generic information such as "chrome 73" and "windows" |
| 01:38:16 | <mgrandi> | as for what this means for archiveteam projects, it probably doesn't mean much, probably is better in the long run as it means that sites can't super rely on the user agent anymore and will rely on the headers such as `Sec-CH-UA` and stuff which is trivial to add |
| 01:38:33 | <mgrandi> | less banner ads about "please install this browser :) " |
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| 06:25:27 | <Ajay> | I can't wait until browsers have to start spoofing 'client hints' as well |
| 06:27:57 | <Arcorann> | https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ <-- a classic |
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| 07:27:13 | <s-crypt> | I brought it up so that if historical data for browser share on netmarketshare has not been fully archived, it could be done. |
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| 16:36:47 | <@JAA> | Just looked into NetMarketShare a little bit. It uses POST XHR with a JSON payload. :-| |
| 16:49:30 | <@JAA> | Won't be looking at this more right now. With a but of work, I bet it's possible to extract that data. |
| 16:49:37 | <@JAA> | s/but/bit/ |
| 16:49:46 | <@JAA> | But it's a PITA. |
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| 18:36:20 | <tech234a> | Fusl: the tracker dashboard rounds numbers now? (to do, out, done) |
| 18:36:27 | <@Fusl> | yes |
| 18:36:51 | <tech234a> | Was it a performance issue? |
| 18:37:05 | <@Fusl> | nope |
| 18:37:22 | <tech234a> | Alright |
| 18:37:35 | <@Fusl> | archive team has grown over the last few months and urls is the first project where the numbers didnt fit into the dashboard anymore |
| 18:37:57 | <@JAA> | Can we modify it such that it always shows the same number of significant digits? |
| 18:38:21 | <@Fusl> | the same what? |
| 18:38:46 | <@JAA> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_figures |
| 18:39:12 | <tech234a> | Sort of like the YouTube subscriber count thing right? |
| 18:39:15 | <@JAA> | E.g. with 3 significant digits, 2.50M instead of 2M. |
| 18:39:25 | <tech234a> | Also looks like JSON still has the exact numbers: https://trackerproxy.archiveteam.org/google-sites/stats.json |
| 18:39:27 | <@JAA> | (Also, M not m please.) |
| 18:39:53 | <thuban> | (millisubscribers) |
| 18:58:56 | <@Fusl> | JAA tech234a, better? |
| 19:06:47 | <tech234a> | Yeah it's better |
| 19:06:55 | <tech234a> | Had to clear my cache to see the changes |
| 19:22:03 | <@JAA> | Yes, thanks. Nit: the 'k' for thousands should be lowercase. |
| 19:34:35 | <@Fusl> | not according to wikipedia |
| 19:39:03 | <@JAA> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix#List_of_SI_prefixes |
| 19:59:33 | <@Fusl> | yeah but im not using SI prefixes |
| 20:00:12 | <@Fusl> | https://www.druide.com/en/reports/millions-billions-and-other-large-numbers |
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| 20:26:45 | <@JAA> | Well yeah, but you should. :-P |
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| 22:54:10 | <nico_32> | arkiver: hi, could you change youtube-y808u8njLgM to mediatype movies & collection archiveteam_youtube? |
| 22:54:49 | <nico_32> | i was testing why the antispam was killing my upload and i missed that 'ia' upload into data by defaut |
| 23:22:19 | <purplebot> | Entomology edited by Katocala (+4740) just now -- https://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=45742&oldid=45270 |
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