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| 00:04:23 | <Ryz> | When checking the logs, can you make the sections of the text entries align more neatly to increase readability? |
| 00:06:51 | <Ryz> | Also, when doing a search, when fetching the links, it fetches from the earliest to the latest entries; this would be very bad when there's a lot more results from the search; basically make it more like how the old logs' search results are brought up? Latest to earliest chronologically by day, but the timestamps for each day are in chronological o |
| 00:06:51 | <Ryz> | rder from earliest to latest |
| 00:24:37 | <lennier1> | The only search results I got for Ridge Racer 7 (a PS3 game) are actually DLC for the Ridge Racer Vita game, which is still for sale. The DLC adds Ridge Racer 7 music tracks to the Vita game. |
| 00:24:52 | <lennier1> | Here's an add-on listing: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/grid/UP0700-PCSE00001_00-RIDGERACERPSVITA/1?relationship=add-ons |
| 00:31:43 | <@JAA> | Ryz: What do you have in mind regarding alignment? |
| 00:32:26 | <@JAA> | As for the order of search results, I could easily reverse the order entirely. Reverse order by date but forward order by time is trickier due to how the logs are stored. |
| 00:39:10 | <Ryz> | JAA, something like this: https://transfer.notkiska.pw/RKoMQ/example.png |
| 00:40:08 | <@JAA> | Ah, separate column for usernames. Yeah, can do that. |
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| 00:42:05 | <Ryz> | lennier1, hmm, it could be possible to archive those links maybe...? It's just that with JavaScript turned off, the images won't render anymore, just placeholder images s: |
| 00:45:21 | <Ryz> | The other things that are from the old loggers are when doing search options like 'Verbatim', 'Word search', and 'Approximate match'; I don't use 'em at all personally but I'm not sure if anyone has rigorously used them that would be deemed important |
| 00:48:45 | <Ryz> | Oh... JAA, to what extent how similar the new log's search functionality is to the old log's? |
| 00:49:05 | <Ryz> | There's some particular search queries that I have that would a great way to filter a lot of stuff |
| 00:53:31 | <@JAA> | Yeah, it's basically nothing like the previous search. Essentially, it's currently the old one with the case sensitivity and verbatim boxes checked. |
| 00:54:01 | <@JAA> | I also have no idea whether anyone ever used the approximate search or word search options, which is why I didn't bother with implementing them so far. |
| 01:32:24 | <@kiska> | hackint.logs.kiska.pw has some search functionality |
| 01:38:03 | <@JAA> | Yeah, but the logger sucks otherwise. :-P |
| 01:40:46 | <@JAA> | Doesn't record joins, quits, nick changes, kicks, mode changes, and probably many more. The topic handling is pretty horrible. Zero support for account tracking and other neat IRCv3 things. |
| 01:41:04 | <@JAA> | It looks decent and has an okay search, but that's about it. |
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| 03:14:14 | <alex95> | lennier1, check this out: https://psprices.com/region-us/game/11507/ridge-racer-7-3d-license-ver |
| 03:15:13 | <alex95> | The DLC is still accessible on PSN, but their base game is not and they don't have the base game as part of their title |
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| 03:20:29 | <alex95> | They're the kind of links I think a crawler might miss because Sony doesn't have a "show all add-ons" section. There's "Add-ons by title", but not all games are in that section (like delisted base games or disc only games) |
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| 03:28:30 | <@arkiver> | our crawlers can be very customized |
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| 05:16:03 | <lennier1> | OK, I see it now, i.e. https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/JP0700-BLJS10001_00-US_EVENT_______4 |
| 05:16:29 | <lennier1> | Not sure if there's a way to just list everything directly from the store page. |
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| 05:18:04 | <lennier1> | What's needed to get the images with Javascript? Full browser emulation? |
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| 05:22:32 | <alex95> | Yeah, I'm worried there's a bunch of orphan pages that I'm not sure how a crawler will get since nothing is linking to them. |
| 05:29:32 | <lennier1> | Also, multiple regions to consider: https://store.playstation.com/ja-jp/product/JP1190-PCSG01310_00-RATALAIKFOXYLAND?smcid=store%3Aja-jp%3Aproduct-JP0177-CUSA10097_00-SONIC20170000000%3Aprimary%2520nav%3Amsg-games%3Aps-vita |
| 05:30:57 | <alex95> | Ah, forgot to mention I'm takling about the en-us region. Other regions might be better organized. |
| 05:31:26 | <alex95> | For example, this is categorized as an "app" and is found in the app section of the en-gb region: |
| 05:31:29 | <alex95> | https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/product/EP9000-NPEA00153_00-GADHOCPART000001 |
| 05:31:47 | <alex95> | But in en-us it's "add-on"...and basically another orphan: |
| 05:31:48 | <alex95> | https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-NPUA70069_00-ADHOCPARTY000000 |
| 05:32:29 | <alex95> | This might help with finding all regions: https://psprices.com/ |
| 05:32:59 | <OrIdow6> | With this store.playstation.com thing, is this just metadata that is intended to be archived, or the downloads themselves as well? |
| 05:37:26 | <lennier1> | Just the on-line listings, I would think. (They're not even removing the games from the console store apps.) |
| 05:46:01 | <alex95> | I've seen some discussion here (https://www.reddit.com/r/vita/) with people trying to figure out what's not available on the Vita store app. |
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| 06:02:16 | <lennier1> | Yeah, the article mentioned it being hard to buy some PSP content (honestly, I didn't know that was still possible at all). I'd guess they've been pirated, but sucks if it's not even possible to get them legit. |
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| 08:45:24 | <Ryz> | Another thought or two on the new logs JAA; there should be a "Back" link on when browsing logs |
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| 08:46:04 | <Ryz> | Also, the navigation links should be found at the bottom, not just at the top of the logs, both top and bottom section of the page should have 'em |
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| 13:48:55 | <@JAA> | Ryz: Where would that 'back' link point though? There are multiple ways how you can reach the log page: homepage, prev/next day links, search. This is why your browser's back button exists (or use the backspace key). |
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| 17:43:29 | <Ryz> | JAA, thing is, the 'Back' link is also found in the old logger~ <#>; |
| 17:46:45 | <@JAA> | I know, it just doesn't really mean 'back'. |
| 17:48:41 | <Ryz> | Also, it's because I don't enter from the list of channels to check, I just jump straight into today's logs of ArchiveBot as my entrance, which means I technically can't go 'Back' on that tab because the browser doesn't have that info |
| 17:49:16 | <Ryz> | Not without having to fiddle with the address bar |
| 17:57:31 | <Ryz> | I wonder if there's a search engine that specifically scans through the keywords as defined by the 'meta name', because upon doing an archive of https://www.tikgames.com - I decided to look at the view source of this page; I know this because I can find some weird or outdated keywords by today's standards that people use back then |
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| 21:56:29 | <Ryz> | Has there been progress on archiving Gamespot as per Jason? |
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